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Topic: Anyone heard of "ANGUILLA LIBERTY DOLLAR"

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laki_sa_layaw
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Does any of the member heard of this  anguilla liberty dollar before?, if so, I want to hear your opinion and its origin.

02:53 AM on 09/29/2009 Flag Quote & Reply
laki_sa_layaw
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Would this image help?

 

02:17 AM on 09/30/2009 Flag Quote & Reply

CounterStrike
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British Colony. Provisional coinage for 1967 (July 11, 1967). KM#5 (c/m on Philippines KM#172), Krause.

 

Interesting coin. Nicely struck.

 

The c/ms are on our small crowns only. No record of the older larger coins as being marked.

 

I'm sure you know that. smile

 

Now that you have our attention...

03:13 AM on 09/30/2009 Flag Quote & Reply

CounterStrike
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I forgot. The mintage of that c/s is only 340.

 

03:17 AM on 09/30/2009 Flag Quote & Reply
laki_sa_layaw
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CounterStrike, you seems to be on top of your collection area and I thank you for supplying information here. Is there any  other place online information about this coin to read up on? Book reference as well is very informative, any suggestions?

04:56 PM on 09/30/2009 Flag Quote & Reply

CounterStrike
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I pulled the info out of one of my old Krause catalogue (1997) I think you should look at Numismaster for its latest suggested price (its got this Find My Coin search engine, but you have to sign up for membership and pay something like less than ten dollars a month for the online catalogue).

 

I think you a have a thoroughly underrated coin. It should be a little more pricy than the suggested value in Krause's catalogue. Anyway its an old one (the catalogue) so maybe the suggested price of your coin may already be a bit higher in the newer ones.

 

Where'd and how'd you get that? Chance in a million (as there are only a reported mintage of 340) you'd get one of those. Anguilla's kind of small on the map.

 

Some guys are really lucky.smile

 

That's kind of hard to top.

08:58 PM on 09/30/2009 Flag Quote & Reply

CounterStrike
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Unless you produce an '04P or '06S that's struck that way.

 

Well, maybe that is too lucky. big grin

09:04 PM on 09/30/2009 Flag Quote & Reply
laki_sa_layaw
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Believe it or not, i won this piece in an auction without knowing the history behind it. The total mintage is what got me into it to bid. Do you think this is worth it keeping? What was the price in XF condition for this piece in that old catalog of yours? Here is the other side of the coin.

 

11:53 PM on 09/30/2009 Flag Quote & Reply

CounterStrike
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The '97 catalogue says its market value at $65, but it doesn't say what condition.

 

I think its worth keeping because it will be very, very tough to get another one like that.

 

I mean, the odds will be so low that you'll run into one in another auction.

01:24 AM on 10/01/2009 Flag Quote & Reply
coolpit
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Here's a note from 2008 Krause Standard Catalog of World Coins 1901-2000 35th Edition page 77:

There is no evidence that the issues of the self-proclaimed

Provisional Government ever actually circulated. The c/s

series most likely served as souvenirs of the “revolution”.


Maybe, Krause made their full research about this coin to support their previous statement that it is an Anguilla provisional coin.


But your coin is well struck! Very nice.


05:01 AM on 10/01/2009 Flag Quote & Reply
laki_sa_layaw
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Thanks for the info, but where is the number of mintage documented?

10:06 PM on 10/01/2009 Flag Quote & Reply
chopped
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There is an interesting article regarding the origin of these Liberty Dollars.  Sparsely, Sage and Timely by David V. Mitchell


In 1967, however, Anguilla declared its independence from the St.Kitts-Nevis-Anguilla Federation, but Britain did not recognize thesecession. From a newspaperman’s perspective, here is where the story gets interesting.

At the time, Scotty Newhall was executive editor of The San FranciscoChronicle, then owned by the Theriot and de Young families, and the flamboyant editor became fascinated with this tiny island. Only 1.5 miles wideand about 10 miles long (with barely a tree on it), Anguillais smaller than West Marin in both area and population.

Although the residents were unhappy with the government in St. Kitts for withholding British aid that should have been shared with them, "the revolution started with a beauty contest in Anguilla in 1967, Newhall in 1989 told the Bancroft Library at Cal. "The winner turned out to be a ringer fromSt. Kitts, not an Anguillan girl at all. The contest ended up with a shooting,and somebody was killed, one person was, I think, and the Anguillans declaredtheir independence from St. Kitts and Nevis. They got up a militia – you know, a rag-tag affair."

Newhall recalled reading about this in a wire-service story anddecided to visit the island with Chronicle reporter George Draper. Aftera number of adventures, they returned to San Francisco where Newhall got together with Howard Gossage, a prominent ad man, and Dr. Gerald Feigen, an equally well-positioned proctologist.

The group decided to help Anguilla resumeits old status as a crown colony, which residents felt would get them better treatment than they were receiving from the government on St. Kitts.

Newhall, Gossage, and Feigen then brought the Anguillan government to San Francisco (including a US citizen who claimed to be aforeign minister). "We borrowed the mayor’s car. We designed flags for Anguilla and put the flags on the car and had a press conference in town. It all makes no sense, but anyway, it was intriguing."

Independent of Chronicle management, Newhall bought 11,600silver-dollar-sized old coins from around the world and used a hydraulic press in The Chronicle basement to restamp them as "Anguilla Liberty Dollars."

Although The Chronicle played the story straight, Newhall’s shenanigans delighted the Bay Area. Not, however, the British government. In 1969, it landed troops on the island, putting down the insurrection. However,as the CIA notes in its World Factbook, "several attempts atseparation failed. In 1971, two years after a revolt, Anguillawas finally allowed to secede.

 



 


01:06 PM on 10/19/2009 Flag Quote & Reply
laki_sa_layaw
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Hi chopped, welcome!

this is a nice information, thank you very much. What kind of collector are you?

10:02 PM on 10/21/2009 Flag Quote & Reply
chopped
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Thanks for the welcome!  I have a general interest in all Philippine coins with a special interest in Countermarks and  Counterstamps.  I also have an interest in antiquarian books and history. Hope to help with the forum!

09:44 PM on 10/23/2009 Flag Quote & Reply

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